I’ve never completely signed up to the ultralight camping manifesto that requires the adherent to remove all the labels from clothes and sleep on bubble wrap, but I do like to save weight by using light weight gear and packing sensibly as long as my comfort isn’t severely compromised. Over the years my gear list has evolved and so have my bags. One constant though has been my Carradice Nelson Longflap saddlebag which has successfully carried my gear over many miles. I admit that I have an emotional connection to this saddlebag because it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling of those halcyon days of English bicycle touring, but it also works very well and has some excellent features such as the expandable long flap, the side pockets and it’s rugged dependability. It’s made of cotton duck material which is very un-ultralight and this became apparent when I recently weighted all my gear and made the spreadsheet below. The saddlebag, at almost 2lbs, is the heaviest thing I carry. So I experimented to see if I could replace it with a 20 litre 100D nylon compression sack that weighs 5.4oz. This is made of heavier nylon than most compression sacks, but I think it’s important for it to be waterproof and fairly tough. The compression feature is vital as it stops items moving around and gives the bag structure so that it can be tightly attached to the bike. There are a couple of companies that specialize in rackless compression sack bicycle bags, so check out Epic Designs and Carousel Design Works sometime and definitely look at this excellent ultralight site http://www2.arnes.si/~ikovse/weight.htm. There are also a few more links on the Gear page of this site. But now to the numbers, click on the spreadsheet images to make them more readable and if you want to copy it it’s available at
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhZSPUeVaGV5dHplVmtST0pmZFJHZ1AxNjBlU20tcWc&hl=en
The result of all this weighting and typing is that by using compression sacks and updating a couple of items I can immediately reduce the weight of my gear, bags and racks from 22lbs to 18.7lbs. I also looked at my clothes and my choice of Merino wool has a definite weight penalty, but I just like the way it feels and performs so I think I’ll stick with it. So what does this look like on the bike. Well almost the same as using a saddlebag, except that my sleeping pad is now in the rear sack. It’s quite easy to strap the sack onto the saddle and Expedition Bagman using a couple of nylon straps through the saddle loops and the front sack is equally easy to attach by strapping it to the handlebars and looping one of the compression straps around the stem to stop the bag flapping up and down.
It works after a fashion, but there are a lot of straps and I think that having to undo the compression straps every time I wanted to get something out of the bag would get frustrating. The side pockets and large top opening flap of the traditional saddlebag are far more practical. The compression sack has one advantage over the Brand V handle bar bag as it has an expandable capacity, but there’s no way to access stuff when riding. So while this approach is a good way to reduce weight I think it lacks the functionality of my traditional bags. The seat bags made by Epic and Carousel seem to have the same draw backs as my compression sack hack, but they might work for you so check them out. Carradice also make a 23L capacity Cordura saddlebag that weighs 1.3lbs, but it seems to be out of stock everywhere and I think it should be possible to use 100D waterproof nylon and come up with some ultralight bags (less than a pound) with the useful features of my traditional bags. If someone made something like that I’d buy it tomorrow.
After going through this exercise I’ve revisited the way I pack my saddlebag. By folding my Big Agnes sleeping pad in two, rather than three, before rolling it up (and putting the Nelson Longflap into Tardis mode) it now fits nicely it into my saddlebag. This makes the setup look cleaner, I never like having stuff hanging off the saddlebag if I can help it. So here it is: a traditional three bag set up using some ultralight principles that will allow indefinite, unsupported, civilized, three season touring at a weight of 22lbs. It can be installed on any bike, road, touring, mountain as it requires no eyelets and even if you don’t have saddle loops you can buy simple clamp on ones or use a quick release Bagman. If I can loose a few pounds I’m thinking of trying this setup on my DeRosa Neo Primato. That would be touring on an Italian steel bike with Japanese components and English bicycle bags. Call me crazy, but I just love the idea of all those weird juxtapositions.

Traditional setup, but now the Tardis like qualities of the Nelson Longflap have allowed me to pack the Big Agnes pad inside






nice. been making similar moves, but with custom bags:
http://littlecirclesvt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/IMG_9412.JPG
looking forward to spring, summer, and fall.
I have become very interested in a lighter weight/more minimalist approach to covering ground. Could you elaborate on bags, contents, attachment to the bike, etc.?
Thanks for taking an interest in my site and setup. I’ll add something to the post you commented on and post a spreadsheet of my gear list.
Hi Chris,
I just posted a gear list.
Mighty helpful. Thank you. I think my S24O gear weighs more than this. I will observe and learn.
Thanks, I’ll post a video soon showing how I pack the new setup.
Hello Clive-
I’ve not actually done the experiment with the stuffsacks / frame bags, as you have, but I reached the same conclusions re. saddlebag v. ultralight bags. My setup is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sentiententity/4110782410/
Almost the same as yours , except that I have my thermarest riding in a bottle cage and the shelter (Hennessey hammock, not tent) in the saddlebag along with everything else. I’ve a newer handlebar bag which is properly waterproof but only a single layer, so lighter than I had previously. Maybe it’s because I live in Scotland, but waterproof is a dealbreaker for me-not merely nice to have, but absolutely essential. Especially if touring ultralight, there’s nothing worse than finishing a pass drenched to the skin, only to find that your spare kit is soaked as well!
I agree with you about the Carradice Longflap design. It’s a fantastic design, but I really wish they’d update it, using quick-release straps and waterproof nylon. Then it would be absolutely perfect.
I use the “SQR” quick release system for my saddlebag. Much more convenient than the traditional straps, even though is obviously weighs more. I should check and see how the SQR system compares to the “bagman” style racks.
It’s not just about the weight!
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Steve,
This looks like an example of parallel evolution. I’ve emailed Carradice about wanting an updated Nelson Longflap. They are considering adding some D-rings for a shoulder strap, but not a lightweight nylon version. I really think that Carradice needs to do something with their designs to distinguish themselves and use their name brand recognition as there’s a lot of competition appearing. Lightweight versions of the Longflap would be good. I was impressed by the waterproof 100D Nylon material of the Sea to Summit compression sacks and think that might make a good bag……I’d love to see some new handlebar bags too.
My handlebar bag is from Rivendell and should be waterproof as it’s made from waxed cotton. I chose it because it is a good size at 7.5L and the simple design makes it light at 13oz, but again I’m thinking that the design would work brilliantly in 100D waterproof nylon and given that a 10L Sea to Summit compression sack weighs 4.5oz a handlebar bag with traditional features and modern materials should be possible at around 4oz. I may be talking to a custom bag maker soon………