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		<title>By: fully loaded touring</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fully loaded touring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arlen</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arlen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[like your set up....
i have something like what you use....
comfort for me is big...
and the older you are ...
comfort is very important...
drop me a note and i will send you a picture of my set up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like your set up&#8230;.<br />
i have something like what you use&#8230;.<br />
comfort for me is big&#8230;<br />
and the older you are &#8230;<br />
comfort is very important&#8230;<br />
drop me a note and i will send you a picture of my set up</p>
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		<title>By: cstandley</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-105</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,
This looks like an example of parallel evolution. I&#039;ve emailed Carradice about wanting an updated Nelson Longflap. They are considering adding some D-rings for a shoulder strap, but not a lightweight nylon version. I really think that Carradice needs to do something with their designs to distinguish themselves and use their name brand recognition as there&#039;s a lot of competition appearing. Lightweight versions of the Longflap would be good. I was impressed by the waterproof 100D Nylon material of the Sea to Summit compression sacks and think that might make a good bag......I&#039;d love to see some new handlebar bags too. 

My handlebar bag is from Rivendell and should be waterproof as it&#039;s made from waxed cotton. I chose it because it is a good size at 7.5L and the simple design makes it light at 13oz, but again I&#039;m thinking that the design would work brilliantly in 100D waterproof nylon and given that a 10L Sea to Summit compression sack weighs 4.5oz a handlebar bag with traditional features and modern materials should be possible at around 4oz. I may be talking to a custom bag maker soon.........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
This looks like an example of parallel evolution. I&#8217;ve emailed Carradice about wanting an updated Nelson Longflap. They are considering adding some D-rings for a shoulder strap, but not a lightweight nylon version. I really think that Carradice needs to do something with their designs to distinguish themselves and use their name brand recognition as there&#8217;s a lot of competition appearing. Lightweight versions of the Longflap would be good. I was impressed by the waterproof 100D Nylon material of the Sea to Summit compression sacks and think that might make a good bag&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;d love to see some new handlebar bags too. </p>
<p>My handlebar bag is from Rivendell and should be waterproof as it&#8217;s made from waxed cotton. I chose it because it is a good size at 7.5L and the simple design makes it light at 13oz, but again I&#8217;m thinking that the design would work brilliantly in 100D waterproof nylon and given that a 10L Sea to Summit compression sack weighs 4.5oz a handlebar bag with traditional features and modern materials should be possible at around 4oz. I may be talking to a custom bag maker soon&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pells</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Pells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Clive-

I&#039;ve not actually done the experiment with the stuffsacks / frame bags, as you have, but I reached the same conclusions re. saddlebag v. ultralight bags. My setup is here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sentiententity/4110782410/

Almost the same as yours , except that I have my thermarest riding in a bottle cage and the shelter (Hennessey hammock, not tent) in the saddlebag along with everything else. I&#039;ve a newer handlebar bag which is properly waterproof but only a single layer, so lighter than I had previously. Maybe it&#039;s because I live in Scotland, but waterproof is a dealbreaker for me-not merely nice to have, but absolutely essential. Especially if touring ultralight, there&#039;s nothing worse than finishing a pass drenched to the skin, only to find that your spare kit is soaked as well!

I agree with you about the Carradice Longflap design. It&#039;s a fantastic design, but I really wish they&#039;d update it, using quick-release straps and waterproof nylon. Then it would be absolutely perfect.

I use the &quot;SQR&quot; quick release system for my saddlebag. Much more convenient than the traditional straps, even though is obviously weighs more. I should check and see how the SQR system compares to the &quot;bagman&quot; style racks.

It&#039;s not just about the weight!

s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Clive-</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not actually done the experiment with the stuffsacks / frame bags, as you have, but I reached the same conclusions re. saddlebag v. ultralight bags. My setup is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sentiententity/4110782410/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/sentiententity/4110782410/</a></p>
<p>Almost the same as yours , except that I have my thermarest riding in a bottle cage and the shelter (Hennessey hammock, not tent) in the saddlebag along with everything else. I&#8217;ve a newer handlebar bag which is properly waterproof but only a single layer, so lighter than I had previously. Maybe it&#8217;s because I live in Scotland, but waterproof is a dealbreaker for me-not merely nice to have, but absolutely essential. Especially if touring ultralight, there&#8217;s nothing worse than finishing a pass drenched to the skin, only to find that your spare kit is soaked as well!</p>
<p>I agree with you about the Carradice Longflap design. It&#8217;s a fantastic design, but I really wish they&#8217;d update it, using quick-release straps and waterproof nylon. Then it would be absolutely perfect.</p>
<p>I use the &#8220;SQR&#8221; quick release system for my saddlebag. Much more convenient than the traditional straps, even though is obviously weighs more. I should check and see how the SQR system compares to the &#8220;bagman&#8221; style racks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just about the weight!</p>
<p>s.</p>
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		<title>By: cstandley</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cstandley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, I&#039;ll post a video soon showing how I pack the new setup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ll post a video soon showing how I pack the new setup.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mighty helpful.  Thank you.  I think my S24O gear weighs more than this.  I will observe and learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mighty helpful.  Thank you.  I think my S24O gear weighs more than this.  I will observe and learn.</p>
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		<title>By: cstandley</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cstandley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris,
I just posted a gear list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,<br />
I just posted a gear list.</p>
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		<title>By: cstandley</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cstandley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for taking an interest in my site and setup. I&#039;ll add something to the post you commented on and post a spreadsheet of my gear list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking an interest in my site and setup. I&#8217;ll add something to the post you commented on and post a spreadsheet of my gear list.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have become very interested in a lighter weight/more minimalist approach to covering ground.  Could you elaborate on bags, contents, attachment to the bike, etc.?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have become very interested in a lighter weight/more minimalist approach to covering ground.  Could you elaborate on bags, contents, attachment to the bike, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://wheelsofchance.org/2010/02/02/ultralight-setup/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice. been making similar moves, but with custom bags:
http://littlecirclesvt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/IMG_9412.JPG

looking forward to spring, summer, and fall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice. been making similar moves, but with custom bags:<br />
<a href="http://littlecirclesvt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/IMG_9412.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://littlecirclesvt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/IMG_9412.JPG</a></p>
<p>looking forward to spring, summer, and fall.</p>
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